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    Re: Lancia Fanalone HF fan

    Price will depend on where you are (not sure where E.S. is), but the most recent auction sales were in November at RM Sotheby's "Duemila Ruote" sale. You find the results here:
    http://www.rmsothebys.com/tv16/duemila-ruote/results/

    The closest thing to a 'Fanalone bible' is Ezio Altorio's Lancia Fulvia HF e tutte le altre Fulvia: berlina, Coupé e Sport [Milano: Giorgio Nada, 1992]. It's still in print in paperback. It's the best Fulvia book -- period, though it's only in Italian.
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    Re: Lancia Fanalone HF fan

    Quote Originally Posted by swift53 View Post
    PS It seems I am not able to post the photo of the valve cover. Is it because I am new,
    and possibly not enough posts?

    Thank you.

    Regards, Alberto
    Probably just because you haven't figured out how to do so.

    if you click this icon you should be able to attach a picture.

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    Re: Lancia Fanalone HF fan

    Alberto,

    Here's another case in in point -- this 1,3HF for sale:
    http://www.classicargarage.com/en/ga...-hf-coupe-1968
    I have no particular reason to doubt its authenticity, and most everything looks correct, it has one glaringly incorrect detail: the oil temp gauge is the wrong type, and so big that they've had to cut rounded notches into the dashboard panel to accommodate it.

    As with any of the HFs, it's hard to find one that's perfect in every detail. No single wrong detail --other than the body stamp -- means a car's wrong. You have to look at the totality.

    And while I can provide a few things to look for on this thread, there's no substitute for doing your own homework; I spent over 2 years learning about them before I bought one. So here's another suggestion: If you really want to understand all the Fanalone-specific details, get a copy of the S1 parts catalogue. It has exploded diagrams of every assembly, and the parts numbers are called out: every part number that begins 818.540 is Fanalone-specific. You can find copies on CD here:
    http://www.viva-lancia.com/specials/cd/fulvia-cd.php
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    Re: Lancia Fanalone HF fan

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    Re: Lancia Fanalone HF fan

    Quote Originally Posted by 1,6 HF View Post
    Alberto,

    Here's another case in in point -- this 1,3HF for sale:
    http://www.classicargarage.com/en/ga...-hf-coupe-1968
    I have no particular reason to doubt its authenticity, and most everything looks correct, it has one glaringly incorrect detail: the oil temp gauge is the wrong type, and so big that they've had to cut rounded notches into the dashboard panel to accommodate it.

    As with any of the HFs, it's hard to find one that's perfect in every detail. No single wrong detail --other than the body stamp -- means a car's wrong. You have to look at the totality.

    And while I can provide a few things to look for on this thread, there's no substitute for doing your own homework; I spent over 2 years learning about them before I bought one. So here's another suggestion: If you really want to understand all the Fanalone-specific details, get a copy of the S1 parts catalogue. It has exploded diagrams of every assembly, and the parts numbers are called out: every part number that begins 818.540 is Fanalone-specific. You can find copies on CD here:
    http://www.viva-lancia.com/specials/cd/fulvia-cd.php
    ED, I am clear that the 'bible' is first on the order list, then the CD.
    baby steps...

    Thank you for the generous help.

    Regards, Alberto

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    Re: Lancia Fanalone HF fan

    Quote Originally Posted by swift53 View Post
    ED, I am clear that the 'bible' is first on the order list, then the CD.
    baby steps...

    Thank you for the generous help.

    Regards, Alberto
    Ed's advice is solid. Learning from the parts book is most precise, but it can take a while to get into it... unless you like spending hours researching, as some of us do. Another way could be to visit the cars and the shops that know. Much of this knowledge is an oral tradition, something that may seem odd in the age of the internet, but is part of the culture of fine cars and engineering.

    Once you have conquered the Fanalone, there are other Lancias that can use your attention. There are various overlaps between the 1.3HF, 1.6HF, and the s.2 1600 that need to be sorted out, depending on which subsystem you are looking at. And this confusion is not limited to Fulvias: the Aprilia used four different crankshafts in its first three years of production, and the early Aurelias had seven different coil spring combinations.

    Baby steps are the right way forward. Its an intriguing puzzle. Come on in, the water's fine.

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    Re: Lancia Fanalone HF fan

    Geoff, I have been doing this car bit for a loooong time, and no stranger to these issues.
    Have been restoring cars for 25 years, and doing some great stuff in Central America.

    We make all sorts of parts, not mechanical, as that, is mostly available, but at times....years.

    Have restored cars, that in other places would have ended as molten metal, produce assorted body items.
    No limits and no strangers to this end of insane great affliction that we all seem to suffer

    But getting back to the infamous 'Fanalone', I shall order the book and learn more, as the Fulvia is just a lovely car.

    Thank you all for the great comments!

    Are there any really nice Fanalone out there? I do not wish to have you all nice guys chasing cars for me,
    but just in case, I ask if anyone knows.

    Are there specialists in the SFO Bay Area? I am here for a brief time out.

    Regards, Alberto

    Regards, Alberto

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    Re: Lancia Fanalone HF fan

    Quote Originally Posted by DJ View Post
    Probably just because you haven't figured out how to do so.

    .....
    Thank you Richard, you were right and figured out that they needed to be slightly smaller format.

    Regards, Alberto

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    Re: Lancia Fanalone HF fan

    Quote Originally Posted by swift53 View Post
    Geoff, I have been doing this car bit for a loooong time, and no stranger to these issues.
    Have been restoring cars for 25 years, and doing some great stuff in Central America.

    We make all sorts of parts, not mechanical, as that, is mostly available, but at times....years.

    Have restored cars, that in other places would have ended as molten metal, produce assorted body items.
    No limits and no strangers to this end of insane great affliction that we all seem to suffer

    But getting back to the infamous 'Fanalone', I shall order the book and learn more, as the Fulvia is just a lovely car.

    Thank you all for the great comments!

    Are there any really nice Fanalone out there? I do not wish to have you all nice guys chasing cars for me,
    but just in case, I ask if anyone knows.

    Are there specialists in the SFO Bay Area? I am here for a brief time out.

    Regards, Alberto

    Regards, Alberto
    Glad to hear it. Didn't mean to suggest otherwise. Welcome.

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    Re: Lancia Fanalone HF fan

    Quote Originally Posted by swift53 View Post
    ... and doing some great stuff in Central America.

    ...

    Are there any really nice Fanalone out there? I do not wish to have you all nice guys chasing cars for me,
    but just in case, I ask if anyone knows.
    There are a couple of nice Fanalone available (or they were available a few months ago). Send me a PM and we can discuss this offline.

    I also just figured out that "E.S." must be El Salvador, in which case you must speak with my friend Adan Figueroa -- a Salvadoreño who runs a Fulvia / Flavia parts business here in California at LaLancia.com.
    http://www.lalancia.com/
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