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    Hi all, new to the forum, just spent a few days scanning the threads and developing a vision for what I'd like to create. Got hooked on Lancias back in '88 when I got to sit in a group B rally 037 and a stradale 037 owned by a guy named Manfredo in Colorado. Then got further hooked after reading an article in European Car that showcased Mark's two Scorpions later in the 90's. That figurative itch has festered under my skin until now. Thanks Mark!

    The last sportscar I owned was a '73 911S targa which I sold back in '97 for $10,000. Yes, I know what they're worth now. I am a financial genius. I've since moved onto building cars and motorcycles and now I believe my skillset will allow me to tackle this. I am thankful for the intertubes of information with dedicated Lanciaphiles such as you all. Hopefully I can give back as much as I take be it knowledge, humor, or human tragedy. I'm starting with all the fingers and thumbs I was born with and not going to give them away easily. Thanks and apologies in advance for all the parts I'm going to try to wheedle out of you all.

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    Re: Always doing things the hard way... #1553 restomod

    Christopher -

    Congratulations on sparing that poor car. I did the same thing recently to a '74 X1/9 that sat since 1979. Is has been through a thorough restoration and almost ready to join the flock. What's your vision for your Scorpion? Let me know if you need any parts. I never throw anything Scorpion related away.

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    Thanks again Mark! Sometime I'd like to swing by and see your fabled cars. I really wanted to see your old white '77 with the Biturbo wheels and the two-tone body. I guess I'll have to live with the pics though. My vision is probably led by that car -the visual elongation of the tones, the wheels that compliment the clean flat lines that hold straight at one viewing angle and curve with another. The inevitable double bubble roof is desired too. The silver paint is growing on me and a second contrasting metallic charcoal lower body I think would look fantastic.

    I'm planning on trying out casting either a fiberglass or carbon fiber mold from the boot lid I have. It's just too damn gone to even try to bring back but it's straight and seems to be a good candidate for that. I am also tempted to compress the bumpers to their stops and 'glass around them creating something evocative of the european bumpers but also lengthening visually but having 'some' structure there to push on the car either end. Also thinking about creating a ducktail spoiler in the vein of the one on youtube here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8d4bfxy5GDk
    Awesome work on the chin spoiler that I saw on Xweb too! I'm getting the feeling that I'll have to turn to TMH for things like the roof panel and whatnot as most of the other guys who've done this work in the past have hung it up.

    The powertrain as I received it is down to the block and tranny and that's fine as I want to pursue a K20 or K24 conversion.

    The seats are pretty well gone so I'd maybe like to source some of those or similar.

    Sort the brakes and struts, upgrading as I go.

    Maybe a fuel cell up front for better weight distribution.

    Staring at e30 BMW headlights and wondering about them...

    Alright enough of that! How 'bout some good ol' cleaning porn?!


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    Re: Always doing things the hard way... #1553 restomod

    I've been boned two times trying to do a big write up of my vision with pics. Hours wasted so I'll try again some other time.
    Last edited by motoTrooper; 21st August 2015 at 10:28 PM. Reason: this does not seem to be working well

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    Re: Always doing things the hard way... #1553 restomod

    Okay I'll break things down into small bite size portions.

    Thanks for the offer Mark! I'd love to swing by your place sometime to see your fabled machines! I wish I could see that white two-tone one with Biturbo wheels you built. So much motivation from that European Car article. I wore out that issue keeping it for just that article. Awesome chin spoiler fabrication that I saw on (cough) Xweb (cough)!

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    Re: Always doing things the hard way... #1553 restomod

    My white Scorpion has been residing in LA for the last twenty years.



    Let me know when you're in the area. You're welcome to stop by.


    Quote Originally Posted by motoTrooper View Post
    Okay I'll break things down into small bite size portions.

    Thanks for the offer Mark! I'd love to swing by your place sometime to see your fabled machines! I wish I could see that white two-tone one with Biturbo wheels you built. So much motivation from that European Car article. I wore out that issue keeping it for just that article. Awesome chin spoiler fabrication that I saw on (cough) Xweb (cough)!

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    Re: Always doing things the hard way... #1553 restomod

    double post
    Last edited by motoTrooper; 23rd August 2015 at 02:46 PM. Reason: double post

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    Re: Always doing things the hard way... #1553 restomod

    Okay my vision. These machines came out when Star Wars premiered and (I feel) have some spaceship(y) design elements. Hard, clean lines that are straight from one viewing angle but curve gracefully in others. I am all about that.

    Wheels: The Biturbo wheels seem to compliment this design well. Just missed some Biturbo Special Edition (14x7's and dishy!) on ebay (kinda spendy though)

    Brakes: The best quality/value I can source going up in size up front and wanting to maintain e-brake in back. (Done some stunt driving for the film/television industry and having all the control I can get appeals to me)

    Suspension: The usual updating and lowering to Euro spec.

    Engine: K20/K24 and five/six speed tranny all the way. Have you heard how these sound?!!! Also gives around the same power/weight ratio of an Alfa 4C with a stick shift! Also possibly a 12-16 gal. fuel cell up front for better weight distrib. and braking/handling effectiveness.

    Headlights: Eyeballing some BMW E30 units with fabricated grill.

    Taillights: Have a complete Euro set on the right and would like to complete the left. Otherwise going to get creative....



    Body: BODY!! Floor pan/battery pan/firewall bulkhead/passenger door bottom metal fabrication and rebuilding. Really thankful to John for finding that boot lid hidden away. It's a goner but is straight and fits well which motivates me to try casting it in fiberglass or (sigh) carbon fiber. Tempted to collapse the bumpers to their stops, strip them of all the rubber and plastic, lighten them a bit, and then skin them in fiberglass so they flow with the bodywork as separate elements. Maybe finding a balance between the elongated, bulky US bumpers and the truncated Euro bumpers. A possible ducktail style spoiler in the vein of the Japanese style 'Lancia Beta Montecarlo' by Michican on YouTube. And a double bubble roof, roof band panel, and headlight band panel from TMH if nothing local pops up.

    Paint: I'm liking the silver more and more and dig the two-tone jobs that I've googled with the darker lower tone (ala Ferrari Boxer Berlinetta) BUT the Star Wars spaceship pale gray keeps scratching the edges of my consciousness too. Wish I was a photoshop badass...

    Finally some cleaning porn to show what lies beneath!


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    Re: Always doing things the hard way... #1553 restomod

    Not the best shot, but here's a rear spoiler I made, inspired by one I saw on a Japanese website:



    Quote Originally Posted by motoTrooper View Post
    A possible ducktail style spoiler in the vein of the Japanese style 'Lancia Beta Montecarlo' by Michican on YouTube. And a double bubble roof, roof band panel, and headlight band panel from TMH if nothing local pops up.

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    Re: Always doing things the hard way... #1553 restomod

    And... I'm making noises like an impressed and intrigued Yosemite Sam

    Beautiful fabrication, looks like it compliments the air dam/chin spoiler perfectly. I would start calling you master Yoda but I don't think you're old enough.

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