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    What tyres? S2 1600 Zagato on 6" Cromadoras

    I have recently acquired a S2 1600 Zagato and am now looking for recommendations as to what tyre size is best suited to its 14x6 Cromadoras. It's currently fitted with 175/70's, but they seem to be around 30mm less diameter than the 165/80 OE tyres (on the original steel rims) and I assume will have a over-gearing effect, so just wondering about filling the wheel arches a bit better by going back to the 165/80 or maybe 175/80. Understand 175 is the widest section possible without bodywork fouling. Any thoughts or recommendations? Cheers, Max

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    Re: What tyres? S2 1600 Zagato on 6" Cromadoras

    I was running 185/65 14" and it didn't foul the arches but I wasn't happy with the hard ride. I have now purchased 175/80 14" that fill the arches nicely. I however have a coupe s2 and was running the cromadoras 14" x5.5j. Ill be using the old steel rims which are 14" 4.5j

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    Re: What tyres? S2 1600 Zagato on 6" Cromadoras

    Quote Originally Posted by CraigHelstrip View Post
    I was running 185/65 14" and it didn't foul the arches but I wasn't happy with the hard ride. I have now purchased 175/80 14" that fill the arches nicely. I however have a coupe s2 and was running the cromadoras 14" x5.5j. Ill be using the old steel rims which are 14" 4.5j

    Craig
    Steel wheel offset allow 175/80 to fit. So do 5.5J but 6J more problematic due to the significant offset which is designed for the HF neg camber front suspansion set up. If you have the standard positive camber set up then 5.5J or Steel are probably best rims.

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    Re: What tyres? S2 1600 Zagato on 6" Cromadoras

    Thanks Ed and Tim for your understanding of the issue. Thisinformation adds extra complication, I had thought from a number of previousposts and the number of pictures around of zagatos (even S1) with 6J X 14s that175 tyres would be ok.
    I have found a tyre fitter who can get Barum Brillantis (<$100each) Nanking tyre ($105), and Michelin XAS ($351) in OEM 165 x 80 x 14. When he found out it was for a Fulvia, he saiddon't use Nanking. No guesses for which one he recommended. Interestingly he said he cant put 175 x70x 14on the car because here it is illegal - more than 15mm undersized!!!!. (Not to sayI cant find someone else who will). I haven’t yet asked about the subject of165 tyres on 6J rims.
    So far this is all reinforcing Ed’s comments.

    By comparison a 175x 70 x 14 Dunlop SP Sport 200E is $119and about 4% under geared.
    Is there any reason you prefer not to use the originalwheels with the OEM 165 x 80 x 14 tyres? - aside from the fact you no doubtalready had 1600HF suspension arms on the car.
    Do you have inner tubes installed with the Barum Brillantistyres?
    Where on the wheel arch did the 175s rub? On the turned inedge around the wheel arch or higher up on the inside vertical face?. I amhaving some work done on the wheel arches on my other sport. I know there canbe variations from car to car and evenon each side of the same car. Maybe there is an opportunity to increaseclearance on this car.
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    Re: What tyres? S2 1600 Zagato on 6" Cromadoras

    Unfortunately I don't know which front suspension my car has - is there any easy way to tell? Max

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    Re: What tyres? S2 1600 Zagato on 6" Cromadoras

    On my S2 Zagato with 6" Cromodora's the rear tyres would just rub the edge of the rear wheel arch with two small people in the back and a little bit of luggage.

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    Re: What tyres? S2 1600 Zagato on 6" Cromadoras

    Quote Originally Posted by Phil-m View Post
    On my S2 Zagato with 6" Cromodora's the rear tyres would just rub the edge of the rear wheel arch with two small people in the back and a little bit of luggage.
    Hi Phil,
    What size tyres are you using?

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    Re: What tyres? S2 1600 Zagato on 6" Cromadoras

    If I remember correctly (I no longer have the car and my Zagato is some way from needing tyres...) I was running it on 175-65''s but as I say I may be wrong.

    Quote Originally Posted by Old Man Wattsy View Post
    Hi Phil,
    What size tyres are you using?

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    Re: What tyres? S2 1600 Zagato on 6" Cromadoras

    Yes, look at it! If the top of the wheel leaning towards the car body it is negative camber otherwise it is positive camber.

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    Re: What tyres? S2 1600 Zagato on 6" Cromadoras

    Looking from the car pic (avatar) I would say it is positive camber. Are you a LMC member?

    Tim

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