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    Re: Can I remove the power steering on my beta

    Dunno about Alfas steering okay w/o a P.S. belt but Betas w/the
    ZF P.S. need if not require the assist to steer properly. Why Lancia
    elected to install ZF P.S. in '81/'82 Betas dunno either. Maybe to
    make it feel more like a luxury car while paralell parking. My '78
    Beta sedan sans P.S. steered fine for me @ all times. Even after
    I went from P3 to P6 tires when Pirelli 1ST introduced P6s U.S.A.
    My suggestion is if you have ZF P.S. in a Beta keep it/fix it, what-
    ever. My twenty cents worth...

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    Re: Can I remove the power steering on my beta

    Does anyone have a mounting bracket to the 81-2 Zagato PS pump? Mine broke like peanut brittle, had it rod n gas welded. Broke a few times rrrggggghhhh. For now i will cut the belt ( before it slipps off the pully in to the cam belt ) and do a manual steering boogie. Weather is rainy +++ here in Portland.
    My wide 215s are going to make for fun steering effort. Thx in advance!@@

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    Re: Can I remove the power steering on my beta

    A 9 year old post.... wow!!

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    Re: Can I remove the power steering on my beta

    Quote Originally Posted by PAV View Post
    A 9 year old post.... wow!!
    Matt Brannon @ Midwest just got an '82 in to part out. Might try him.
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    Re: Can I remove the power steering on my beta

    Just to confirm: the ZF PS rack will steer fine without the pump in action, just heavy for parking. When my PS belt broke while driving, I barely noticed any difference in feel and wasn't even sure anything had happened, until I reached my destination and went to park. Still drove it around for like that for a while until I got around to replacing the belt. Conversion to a manual rack is not practical, as the firewalls differ.

    Speaking of, I really need to get my rack rebuilt, as steering has lately been getting "sticky" (tight to move from any wheel position) once the car is warmed up, and recently I lost all power assist on left turns only (!), so apparently something's gummed up the works. Seal rebuild kits are available from BetaBoyz and http://steeringseals.com/beta.html -- or apparently an '80-82 Audi 5000 kit has all the seals needed (and then some).
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    Re: Can I remove the power steering on my beta

    Thanks Much!!



    Quote Originally Posted by LanciaPaul View Post
    Matt Brannon @ Midwest just got an '82 in to part out. Might try him.

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    Re: Can I remove the power steering on my beta

    Just called, he is looking


    Quote Originally Posted by LanciaPaul View Post
    Matt Brannon @ Midwest just got an '82 in to part out. Might try him.

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    Re: Can I remove the power steering on my beta

    I started driving Zag without pump belt attached, suddenly my steering box sprung a small leak and is driving smoke into the cabin. Soon have a PS pump mount I hope!!!

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    Re: Can I remove the power steering on my beta

    Quote Originally Posted by PAV View Post
    I started driving Zag without pump belt attached, suddenly my steering box sprung a small leak and is driving smoke into the cabin. Soon have a PS pump mount I hope!!!
    Egad, that shouldn't happen just by driving without the pump engaged; getting the pump operating won't fix the leak but may make it far more obvious where the leak is! If you're lucky, it'll be one of the connector hoses on the low-pressure return line. Not safe to drive as it is; smoke in the cabin probably means it's leaking on the exhaust, which could turn into a fire. I'm pretty sure that's what sent mine to the junkyard where it was later rescued by the PO I bought it from; apparently he had to replace a lot of wiring damaged in that underhood fire.
    Best regards,
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    Re: Can I remove the power steering on my beta

    Thanks SubGothus, I have 2 extinguishers in the Zag, will get a pump mount soon and replace the assembly. Got another rack unit -rebuilt - and will ask Performance Apex to swap it out.

    Will follow up with all to share the results




    Quote Originally Posted by SubGothius View Post
    Egad, that shouldn't happen just by driving without the pump engaged; getting the pump operating won't fix the leak but may make it far more obvious where the leak is! If you're lucky, it'll be one of the connector hoses on the low-pressure return line. Not safe to drive as it is; smoke in the cabin probably means it's leaking on the exhaust, which could turn into a fire. I'm pretty sure that's what sent mine to the junkyard where it was later rescued by the PO I bought it from; apparently he had to replace a lot of wiring damaged in that underhood fire.

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