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    Re: Yet another Tire Question....

    Quote Originally Posted by 1,6 HF View Post
    The original wheel nuts are open bronze nuts (with a shoulder and tapered seat).
    Looks about right.....
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    Re: Yet another Tire Question....

    That's them.
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    Re: Yet another Tire Question....

    Follow up (somebody someday searching for tire information on the forum may see this thread and wonder how it ended )

    I ended up buying the 145HR14 PIRELLI CINTURATO CA67 tires from Longstone Tyres out of England. They had the lowest total price including shipping.

    We love the tires. The steering effort is lighter - it almost feels like power steering! Car handles great. I've taken it for some long spirited drives and the tracking is great. The only time I was a little concerned was when I was entering a corner at speed and I noticed there was a large wet area and rather than test the adhesion of the narrow tires, I decided to brake prior to hitting the water. The driver right behind me in his Alfa 4C told me at the next stop that he was shocked at how fast the little Lancia was taking all the turns. He was a little curious about the one curve where he noticed my hard braking. (he was sympathetic when I told him why, after all, I wasn't driving a modern sports car like he was).

    So, for anyone trying to decide what tires - I strongly recommend the original size Pirellis. And they look great too!
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    Re: Yet another Tire Question....

    Thanks for the follow-up; glad it turned out well
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    Re: Yet another Tire Question....

    I can't begin to tell you how pleased i am that you like them, because coming from me as a commercial entity it doesn';t hold the same weight. However i do have the Cinturato fitted on my Lotus Elite, and they are bloody lovely. Withy cars like this it is not about ultimate grip and large footprints. It is about precise, progressive handling. (they look good too but to me that is lesser important. handling is king)

    So relieved you like them https://www.longstonetyres.co.uk/tyr...rato-ca67.html

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    Re: Yet another Tire Question....

    The problem for those of us with the S1 1,6 is that remaining original means sticking with 13" alloys. They were originally mounted with 175-13 Michelin XAS, which is a size Michelin hasn’t reissued. I’ve been running the only available equivalent: Kumho 185/70-13 R800 rally tires. They look great, but they’re gravel-spec tires, so they have reinforced sidewalls that offer next to no compliance. I finally got so tired of the lousy ride that I’ve now switched to (smaller diameter) 185/70-13 CN36 – from Longstone. Final judgment will have to await more miles, but so far they’re performing brilliantly.
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    Re: Yet another Tire Question....

    I am in need of tires for my S2 Coupe and am considering the CA67's and the Sprint Classics. The CA67's come in the "right" tire size - 145R14, whereas the Sprint Classics come in 165R14.

    I've heard many good things about the Sprint Classics on friends vintage cars (Alfas, etc) so I'm tempted to go that way, but I'm worried about the extra width. Tire Rack has these for $560 shipped.

    I've also heard good things about the CA67's. The cheapest I can get them is shipped from Longstone for $561 (or Lucas for $571). So all about the same price.

    What would you do? I'm tempted to go CA67, but am not sure.

    To throw a wrench in things, I'd really love a set of Cromodora CD28s (6 x 14) (and I know there are potentially some fitment issues). If I had those wheels, what tire size would be recommended? I'd like to avoid rubbing if at all possible, so I'd guess narrower is better.

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    Re: Yet another Tire Question....

    Quote Originally Posted by PatrickT View Post
    I am in need of tires for my S2 Coupe and am considering the CA67's and the Sprint Classics. The CA67's come in the "right" tire size - 145R14, whereas the Sprint Classics come in 165R14.

    I've heard many good things about the Sprint Classics on friends vintage cars (Alfas, etc) so I'm tempted to go that way, but I'm worried about the extra width. Tire Rack has these for $560 shipped.

    I've also heard good things about the CA67's. The cheapest I can get them is shipped from Longstone for $561 (or Lucas for $571). So all about the same price.

    What would you do? I'm tempted to go CA67, but am not sure.

    To throw a wrench in things, I'd really love a set of Cromodora CD28s (6 x 14) (and I know there are potentially some fitment issues). If I had those wheels, what tire size would be recommended? I'd like to avoid rubbing if at all possible, so I'd guess narrower is better.
    I thought S2 coupes ran 165 14 80’s as standard? S1 was 145 14 80. Re cromodoras these naturally size 175 up, but you can get them to work down to 165 (I run 165 14 80 on my sport on the 6 J). Bear in mind the 6j was designed specifically for the 1 deg neg HF camber suspension set up, wh8ch may be incidental if you just want to “show”.

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    Re: Yet another Tire Question....

    If the reissued Michelin XAS were available in the original 175-13 size, I’d run those on my 1,6HF. And I really didn’t want to go to a smaller overall diameter. But there’s not much choice; 185-13 XAS foul the front arches, and as I mentioned above the gravel-spec 195/70-13 Kumhos were too harsh. So there’s no good alternative to 185/70-13, which leaves the absurdly expensive Michelin XDX or the CN36, which is the tire the works cars ran on intermediate surfaces. Not a tough choice; as I said, I just bought a set of CN36 from Longstone.

    As far as your tire choice is concerned, the S2 Coupé came standard with either Michelin ZX or Pirelli CF57. Unless I’m mistaken, the "F" for "fabric" is now "A" for "Aramid," which means the CA67 is in effect an updated original-spec tire. Sounds like the perfect choice. But the correct size for the S2 is 165-14 – not 145, so that choice is no choice at all, assuming you're running the original steels...

    There would be no clearance issues with the 6 x 14 Cromodoras, per se; they were designed to clear the S2 Girling brake calipers. Whether or not they’ll foul the wheel arches is a function of the tire size. You can’t run 165s; they’re out of spec for a 6" rim. You’d probably be OK with the equivalent 185/70-14, which would give you a decent range of tire choices, both modern and classic. It’s possible there could be some rubbing at max compression or max lock; I simply couldn’t say. But because it has a more rounded shoulder, you’d probably have better odds with the 185/70-14 CN36.

    Another possibility for a replica alloy would be the 5.5 Campagnolo used on the 1,3HF. Roin makes them in aluminum:
    http://www.rointechnology.com/indexx...g&marca=lancia
    the 5.5" width means you could run either 165-14 or 185/70-14, though the latter would be a safer choice, And of course the 1/2" narrower width suggests there’d be no clearance issues.
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    Re: Yet another Tire Question....

    Quote Originally Posted by 1,6 HF View Post
    You can’t run 165s; they’re out of spec for a 6" rim.
    "Out of spec" does not mean they do not work so I disagree these cannot be considered. I did over 5000km in 7 days in my 1600 Sport this summer all over Europe (fast and challenging) running 165 80 14's on the 6j cromodoras. They were fitted a couple of years ago by my tyre fitter who is ex police and does not consider it is out of spec.

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