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    Re: Putting a 1,6 HF back on the road

    The repro Cromodoras are all 14" for the simple reason that the 13"s won’t fit an S2 (they foul the brake calipers) are they’re nearly impossible to find decent 13" tires. Of all the Fulvias, only the S1 1,6HF had 13"s, so I run them on mine, but correct size tires don’t exist.

    BTW, original magnesium Cromodoras have "MG" molded into the inside face of the wheels.
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    Re: Putting a 1,6 HF back on the road

    The 13" Cromodora's are prone to crack but I have never seen this issue on the 14". I would try to find original magnesium rims. On Subito.it as Ed mentioned you can find several sets for sale.
    Shipping within Europe is a mere 70euro.

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    Re: Putting a 1,6 HF back on the road

    Bying old Cromodora 13 inch wheels from Subito is possible, but you have no warranty that they are ok.
    I bougth two magnesium 6JX13 at Subito and found both have cracks when old Paint was removed.

    I found that the two I bougth from Italy (With cracks) was what I believe the first generation from the Production date inside the Wheel.
    They was 0,5 kg ligther than the 4 Wheels my car came With. Both types are magnesium, but the later generation had presumbly more/thicker castings around the square opening areas. It is between the square openings my Wheels have cracked. The metal content was the same.



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    Re: Putting a 1,6 HF back on the road

    The Cromodora magnesium 6Jx13 are the lightest wheels for the S1.

    I've got a set, but I'm currently running the slightly-heavier Campagnolo HF wheel from the early Fanalones; I just like the look.
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    Re: Putting a 1,6 HF back on the road

    Quote Originally Posted by Racer View Post
    Bying old Cromodora 13 inch wheels from Subito is possible, but you have no warranty that they are ok.
    I bougth two magnesium 6JX13 at Subito and found both have cracks when old Paint was removed.

    I found that the two I bougth from Italy (With cracks) was what I believe the first generation from the Production date inside the Wheel.
    They was 0,5 kg ligther than the 4 Wheels my car came With. Both types are magnesium, but the later generation had presumbly more/thicker castings around the square opening areas. It is between the square openings my Wheels have cracked. The metal content was the same.



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    Hi Tor,

    The wheels are still on the car (and the car is still in the garage for fixing the engine) so I don't know the casting dates.
    What I saw on my wheels was that 4 out of 5 had the markings Cromodora on one side and Fergat on the opposite side (and 13"X6J and 0.8329 at 90 degrees), are these the earlier type that you got?
    Out of the 2 that is cracked both are Cromodora-Fergat marked.

    I even took the spare (with worst cracks) to a known wheel-welding expert. Wile he said that the wheels was not repairable (they would shrink if welded) he also said that the reason for the cracks was manufacturing error and not abuse.
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    Re: Putting a 1,6 HF back on the road

    Hi Karl

    None of my Wheels have Fergat cast into them, but MG is cast inside all 6. The four Wheels on my car is ok without cracks (the heaviest ones).
    The two lightest (and oldest) ones are still at the welder, hopefully they can be repeared and used for spare Wheel in the trunk.

    Cheers

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    Re: Putting a 1,6 HF back on the road

    Today was a real success!
    Yesterday I collected the car from the mechanic who did the engine (and a bunch of things).
    I drove the car back home, had some minor problems with high temperature and loosing water.
    While home I changed the radiator cap, and that seemed to help the loosing of water.

    Drove the car to the car inspection today and got a clean pass. Good thing is that since it reaches 50 years next year, I will never need to inspect (like MoT) it any more.
    Then I drove the car back to its winter storage, just in the nick of times as we are get constant sub-zero temperatures i Sweden. (I realised that the heater was not working (probably the heater adjustment valve), so I pre-heated the coupé as much as I could with an electric heater before setting off).

    Still had some minor overheating issues going to the winter storage, or at least that was what the meter said (the fuel meter didn't work, the oil pressure was unlikely high, so one of the first place to look is that instrument cluster, groundings etc).
    Despite my disbelief in the instrument I took the safe approach of just going smaller ways (no motorways) and stopping to cool down every time the temp gauge was going up.

    Now I have done 170 km in the car, compared to the 2 km plus 100 meters to do a moving picture for an article. I must say that I have really enjoyd it, and that I have foung out loot of stuff to do with the car during the looong boring winter season in Sweden.
    Karl

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    Re: Putting a 1,6 HF back on the road

    Sounds like you're going to have a lot of fun with your Fulvia.
    I had the same supposed running hot problem with my 2c Berlina, in the end I bought a digital point and shoot thermometer, that soon proved it was the gauge, or sender, or both that was at fault.
    They don't cost a lot and we'll worth having in your toolkit.
    Good luck.
    Brian

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    Re: Putting a 1,6 HF back on the road

    Thanks Brain, that's was a good advice!
    I found some really small pocket sized ones that will go perfect in the glovebox, I will get one for each car.
    Karl

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    Re: Putting a 1,6 HF back on the road

    Did you fit a new thermostat? Difficult job and could be the source of your problem. Not at all easy to assess in situ and generally if they have been in a long time it could have failed but you will need to destroy the middle and cut it out as will be corroded in its mount on the top hose water rail.

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