Scorp Euro Bumper Installation, part deux!!!

[John O]

Hey Everyone,

When last I asked for help on this subject, I got some good useful answers. Well, I'm back for more! ...and I'm in a hurry becasue these damned bumpers are keeping me from getting the car back from the body shop!

Anyway, here's where I stand - two issues:

1) Front Bumper
I have all the available TMH mounting pieces ("L" bracket things) and I'm doing all the cut-outs in the front bumper. However, I'm not 100% (or even 75%) on what goes on in the small grill cut-outs. I know one of the mounting points is covered by the grill as per John Martin's previous post:


The front mounts (on the front bumper) are just simple flat brackets with one end bent at 90degrees. I'll grab one and measure it. They just mount to the same holes the bumpers shocks mount to. You'll have to drill holes in the bumper to line up with the brackets. The bolts/holes get covered up by the little mesh grilles that are on either side of the front license plate.

...but I'm just fuzzy on it. Any way someone with real Monte bumpers could take some close up pics for me of their small grill zone?

HERE (http://picasaweb.google.com/roadbox128/ScorpionRenovation#5342082908098945010), HERE (http://picasaweb.google.com/roadbox128/ScorpionRenovation#5342082986495803730), and HERE (http://picasaweb.google.com/roadbox128/ScorpionRenovation#5342082832216651218) are the areas I'm looking for.


2) Rear Bumper
While figuring out how to make the mounting work, I hadn't paid attention that the rear bumper, like the front, has more material cast into it than the finished piece needs (Rod at THM tells me it's to keep the piece from twisting damage in transit). Unlike the front however, there are no subtle mold parting lines from which to devined a "cut here" line. HERE (http://picasaweb.google.com/roadbox128/ScorpionRenovation#5342083073851871394) and HERE (http://picasaweb.google.com/roadbox128/ScorpionRenovation#5342083207500440274) are pics of the rear bumper from the top. Any help on where to start would be super helpful.

Thaks again for any help.

John O.

[Frezer]

Hi John, I could take some monte-bumper pictures wednesday/thursday.

Regarding the front bumper, the left hole is for indicator and city light, as you probably already have figured out. For the second hole, the protruding part on the left side is for fixing to the car with the bracket, just as John Martin mentioned. the deeper part on the right of it is open, letting air onto the radiator.

Cheers,
Merijn

[Darren]

I'll take some pics for you when I get home John,

but from memory when I fitted the front bumper I have, I cut out and left an area for drilling the front mount and then used the small grill as a template to get the fitting slots and cleaned the rest out.

I'll take some shots of the rear bumper for you too!

Cheers

Darren

[Will]

John, are you changing to Monte or fixed headlights also?

The folders will create some clearance issues with a "real" monte grill IIRC, the aftermarket monte-look bumpers usually have a sloping section so they go under the light (bottom of the light bucket is lower than top of real Monte bumper.)

Figured I would let you know before you started cutting those Monte bumpers if you intended to keep the folding lights- you could shave the bumpers away so there was a bit of clearance ahead of the light like the existing trim strip on a Scorpion, but you end up seeing it in the final install. Not sure if this would bother you or if you are already aware.

[John O]

Figured I would let you know before you started cutting those Monte bumpers if you intended to keep the folding lights...

Nope, the flip ups are gone. They (http://picasaweb.google.com/roadbox128/ScorpGeneral#5301000379440899666), and all the plastic trim around them, were distroyed in the accident. I like the flip ups in the way I have affection for any oddball esthetic that Italians come up with, but I wasn't willing to put time/effort into finding a bunch of brittle 30 year old plastic bits. Plus, when it comes down to it, I really like the quad headlight look in the Scorp and I like the idea of fiberglass nose pieces out in the breeze, not old plastic ready to come apart at any second. I have a late Beta grill and quad headlight gear, along with a handfull of relays to wire in, just waiting for the car to get back home to I can begin braket making (and trimming the rad supports apparently too).

But thanks for the warning none the less.

John O.

[Darren]

Here you go chap, hope they're useful to you!

http://lancisti.net/photopost/data/908/medium/IMG_0058.jpg

http://lancisti.net/photopost/data/908/medium/IMG_0059.jpg

http://lancisti.net/photopost/data/908/medium/IMG_00611.jpg

http://lancisti.net/photopost/data/908/medium/IMG_0062.jpg

http://lancisti.net/photopost/data/908/medium/IMG_0065.jpg

a few photos in my album under 'Misc'

Cheers!

[John O]

Here you go chap, hope they're useful to you!

Wow, mate! Those are outstanding, perfect, exactly what I was looking for! Thanks, Darren!

Now I just have to get home from work while there's still light out...

Thanks again.

John O.

[Darren]

No probs John, Happy to help - let me know if you need any other pics. Have fun!

Cheers

[John O]

Here's a quick update.

First, I spent some time at the bodyshop on the 3rd of July and yesterday getting the bumpers and nose band fitted up to the car. I did most of the work with the help of one of my former students. The guys at the bodyshop were very cool about letting me use the lift or whatever I needed. It went VERY WELL. Compliments to the Monte Hospital; once trimmed to the marks, the front bumper fit perfectly. The rear needed nothing, no trimming at all, to fit perfectly as well. It kills me that I forgot to bring a camera with me both times!!! The bumpers do amazing things for the look of the car.

I have to say I was VERY surprised how heavy the stock rear bumper was. The front's been off for a while and I guess I'd forgotten. I have MH lowering springs installed and I couldn't help but wonder if I've rasied my ride height subtracting stock Scorp bumpers and adding the Monte bumpers? LOL.


Last, a HUGE thank you to everyone who helped me out. I absolutely could not have squared things up with out you!!!! Darren, your pictures were invaluable, a super resource! Will, you were right that mounting brackets are almost not needed - the front bumper sits well enough on the lower grill lip that the final fitting of the brackets can wait 'til much later (if ever).

Now the bumpers are off to prep and paint!

Thanks again.

John O.

[Darren]

Yay! Glad to hear you're making good progress and won't be long before you're back on the road again - look forward to seeing pics in due course - DON'T FORGET YOUR CAMERA!!!!!!:cheers::D:cheers::D