Filler Hose Replacement

[KeppelmanJ]

Anyone know of a US available replacement for the rubber lower part of the Beta filler hose, the L shaped section which goes between the galvanized filler pipe and the tank inlet?

[DJ]

Can't help with a new one but you may try contacting Val Danilov or Dave at Apple Motors. I seem to remember that I may have given them a good used one (with filler neck) in the truckload of used stuff I dropped off at Apple when I was moving to Scotland.

[Jim Keller]

I aggree with DJ, your gonna want to track down an original, there around in every Lancia part grubbing garage stash.......except mine, I just sold the one I had two months ago, sorry

Heat them with a heat gun or some other high heating device that will not blow up your tank in the process to get them off in the future and that will avoid cracking and breaking them when you need to drop the tank. I actually use a MAPP gas torch, but EXTREEMLY CAREFULLY!

[KeppelmanJ]

Thanks DJ, Jim, I'll see what I can find. I've emailed Apple Motors. I wish there was a way to test the original for permeation. I run my hand along it and smell my hand and it does smell of gas. But it's got spill streaks on it too so it's had gas on it's outside at some time. It's the same story with the rail hoses. There's no proof they are leaking. but at a certain point, what else could it be. Go for it. Thanks.

[Will]

I aggree with DJ, your gonna want to track down an original, there around in every Lancia part grubbing garage stash.......except mine, I just sold the one I had two months ago, sorry

Heat them with a heat gun or some other high heating device that will not blow up your tank in the process to get them off in the future and that will avoid cracking and breaking them when you need to drop the tank. I actually use a MAPP gas torch, but EXTREEMLY CAREFULLY!

I hope you are joking.

[KeppelmanJ]

My further thought is to come up with a steel elbow to put at the bottom under the trunk floor and then use two lengths of off the shelf rubber fuel hose on either side of it. A guy could pull that together fairly easily I bet.

[Jim Keller]

<sigh>, no I'm not kidding Will, LOL! but I do make sure all gas AND most importantly, FUMES! are not present before I hit them with the open flame, I'm not stupid! LOL

Getting the hose hot and soft makes removing it easy and you won't break it. A heat gun will do it too without igniting the fumes mainly because it's not an open flame and it's backed by fat moving air dispersing any fume accumulation, but I have found my wife's hair dryer just doesn't have enough instant or directed heat to cut the job

[Charley]

A good soak around the joints with Free-All or PB Blaster and shoving a hack saw blade under the hose and moving it around to different spots to allow the lubricant to get in there worked for me.

[Will]

<sigh>, no I'm not kidding Will, LOL! but I do make sure all gas AND most importantly, FUMES! are not present before I hit them with the open flame, I'm not stupid! LOL

Getting the hose hot and soft makes removing it easy and you won't break it. A heat gun will do it too without igniting the fumes mainly because it's not an open flame and it's backed by fat moving air dispersing any fume accumulation, but I have found my wife's hair dryer just doesn't have enough instant or directed heat to cut the job

You are gonna qualify yourself for a Darwin award one of these days, Jim.:)

You'd better start filling those tanks with soapy water before that stunt, even a heat gun isn't safe because the autoignition point of gasoline is something like 450F. The coils in the heat gun (or even a hair dryer) get hotter than that. It's just a REALLY bad idea!

I have a device called a "Lecta Sweat" that is basically a big sealed transformer and inductively heated clamp that is used for sweating pipe in close quarters and in explosive atmospheres. I don't even like to use THAT around a tank full of fumes. You may also be able to flood the tank with nitrogen, carbon dioxide or helium to decrease the risk, but IMO filling it with water is best. That's how I cut up propane tanks (bleed off propane, remove valve, fill with water, cut with oxyfuel).

On a tank with fuel in it, I'd consider Charley's method but that's about it.

I may be a chickenshit, But I'm a chickenshit with two hands and I still have eyebrows.